. David. Anyone else do this? I thought they would all come in a box and be distributed at the end of the school year. Glad that I could kick up some dust . "Wasn't there a bridge we had to get them over. Im sure that Beverley Anne is fine and doing well . In Catholic school in San Francisco in the Sixties, we also collected for the pagan babies daily, and got to name the baby once we had five dollars. On the other hand, the central charitable action of my generationsaving and naming pagan babieswas clearly a fiction (I mourn those African Karens), one that reinforced my American sense of exceptionalism and arrogance. That fits , I suppose . Bingo, and thanks. Ive been fortunate to travel to various parts of the world and to admire (our missionaries) extraordinary love of the world and of the people with whom they live., Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, apostolic nuncio to the United States who greeted guests on behalf of Pope Benedict XVI, called the Pontifical Mission Societies instruments for cooperation in the universal mission of the Church across the world.. A friend of mine, from back in the 80s, played guitar in a band with that name (weird thing about that is, hes Jewish). I dont remember collecting money for them. Never knew it meant Justice under God though . The salesman had charts and pictures and a poster for every classroom of the glorious prizes . Charlie stood up to his full height of about four foot three , his head held high , a serious look on his face . A freshly sprung ex-con turned stand-up comic, Debbie needs some fast cash, too, to settle an old score. Thanks for your thoughtful comment . I went Catholic school in NJ and yes, we had pagan babies! by reneeqyancy | Feb 9, 2010 | Blog | 8 comments. Thanks for the comment . Im thinking, maybe, that I qualify as a pagen baby. Something good came from Corpus Cristi. I thoroughly enjoy your posts. if you can open your heart and you want to do something to help, PLEASE donate here to the Gonzalez Family . Don't know why they are so eagerly upholding pagan traditions. Starving kids in Africa or something. "I loved Pagan Babies. Good luck. Servant of God Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who once said, My greatest love has always been the missions of the Church, was very much a spiritual presence at the dinner, where his name was invoked several times. Each in his or her own way has been a missionary of the Gospel of Christ. I found a bunch of them in my moms cedar chest she saved all of them! I knew immediately what you were referring to even though we never went to church & I went to public school. Thanks for commenting. She was managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press bestselling Amazing Grace series. Oh my, what a great story. went into some general fund and wasnt really sent where we imagined that it was sent at the time . Like using Necco wafers to practice First Holy Communion. Already he was losing his enthusiasm . - Ann C. I found I really did not have many skills to offer. To some of us Catholic school old-timers , pagan babies is a secret code , I guess, that gets us entry into some somewhat sardonic memories . pagan babies When I attended Corpus Christi Catholic School in the 1950s and 1960s there was a program we all called Pagan Babies . This was great to read. There were milk cartons to hold the money. He could go home , buy his kids new bikes if he wanted to , and come back at the end of two weeks to collect the cash . The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . I mentioned pagan babies and Im still not sure if they believed me. - Vera Marie C. They were wondering how to react . When our family moved to another part of Dearborn, we transferred to St Alphonsus parish, and I traded the blue jumper for a plaid one, and the beanie for Hush Puppy shoes. Philadelphia 76ers Premier League UFC. Learn how your comment data is processed. Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? They also helped keep things quiet. By letting civility happen, we take better care not only of others and of the world itself, but of ourselves. Shed be about 70 now! Neil Getz on February 21, 2021 at 9:52 am. Holy Hacks: Everyday Ways to Live Your Faith & Get to Heaven, Youth Pilgrims Write a New Chapter for South Sudan, Catholic Bookstore Sues Jacksonville Over Law it Says is a Trans Pronoun Mandate, Heres How Half of U.S. Abortions Could Be Stopped This Week, Argentina: New Book Gives Pope Francis Responses to Issues Hes Most Often Asked About. Id give my expected nickel or dime each week . Then we got a certificate and the children got a medal. So it had to be pretty official, like our nun just couldnt pull a certificate out of her drawer and fill in the name.no, I think that it had to be signed by the big Catholic mucky-mucks. 1961 66. we collected for pagan babies, but we never got to name them, and there was no box that folded out. It is a few years after the genocide of the Tutsis by the Hutus.. Father Terry lives in Rwanda with his girlfriend Chantelle. Steve Stahley. I think that the white kid had flowers in his hand and maybe a halo on his head. We didnt get a chance to vote on a name because he could name him himself. I specifically remember this from eighth grade in 1960. I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the May 2 gala. I think mine were 25 cent stamps . Thanks for the comment . Margaret Ann is a good respectable name . Weird, the kind of memories we carry over from childhood, isnt it? Of course, we collected money in the little paper boxes " for the missions" and I seem to remember something about either the school or each class "adopting"one of the mission children. Ours always seemed to be colored brown . Christians have always believed that baptism is the gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua), and the door which gives access to the other sacraments. (CCC 1213). Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. Thanks for the comment . ), and its name was even weirder - it was collect money to feed the Black babies. My vocation has been in education, and in the thirty-plus years since my summer in Mexico I have accompanied students on many short sojourns to the front lines in Tijuana, Nicaragua, El Salvador, East Los Angeles, New Orleans. "I remember Pagan Babies!" While the circumstances, the cost, and the rewards varied from parish to parish, most Catholic children of the 1960s saved at least one pagan baby. What exactly we learned from this could be disputed. Thanks for the comment . Each classroom was given small cardboard collection boxes . Oh my goodness! They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Other Brookliners Remember Adopting Catholic Connection (right after the news). I remember this in Chicago St. John Fisher. Love Your Sister Now I am teaching fourth grade in a little Catholic school in Venice . As a first grade student at St.Aloysius in Wilkes-Barre, PA circa 1969, pagan babies were part of our extreme Catholic instruction. "What I loved about the Pagan Babies is that we were allowed to name them with our names. Pagan Babies | Commonweal Magazine Pagan Babies By Linda A. McMillin March 12, 2012 I am a Catholic of a certain age, a graduate of parochial school, and a former member of the Association of the Holy Childhood. Why would I sell overpriced candy to people and never get the bike anyway because no one could sell that much candy anyway ? Remember it like it was yesterday. RENEE! The rise of AI will generate cultural content designed not to be original or even to say anything, but to produce, like a drug, the same experience, again and again. The Mary list is endless. "I think they cost five dollars." The principal stepped forward , to the rescue , saying coldly , Its a fundraiser for the school . He didnt mention his new stereo system . . It is so very true the whole Pagan baby scam my mom complained to the principal about how us kids were made to feel guilty for not coming up with the cash every day some of the richer kids would buy 10s of these Pagan babies I think we came close to sponsoring an entire small tribe in those days, Funny as hell reading this story great memories! Its a wonderful window on the old days , isnt it ? I guess we survived . His parents cant now change the little pagans name , right ? I know its not a politically correct term, but babies are not getting baptized or raised in the faith. Dell Publishing, $24.95 (272pp) ISBN 978--385-33392-4 The opening paragraph depicts a corner of hell on earth: a church in Rwanda after the recent. Your class picked out a name for the child, and the Catholic church baptized the baby with that name into the Catholic faith. Names chosen for each baby were REQUIRED to be the names of bonefide saints, beatified by process through Rome. I ALSOvividly remember, that the certficates were five dollars each (pretty steep for thr 60s! Hearts of Gold, A Gilded Age Historical Romance Series. - Sharon S. Renee- -tell the proofreader to correct the spelling of the coin nickel in the second sentence of your article on Pagen babies. Watch for these changes, Eight more pro-life activists for FACE Act violations. which is how he found your story!!! The principal was standing nearby wondering if he should intervene . But I was in the mist of all of the Catholic Truths and those truths just werent ringing true to me. I still find myself wishing THOSE people had relatively lackluster and unsuccessful lives. I dont remember what exactly the certificates were certifying Im assuming that little Christine Marie had been duly baptized but I know when we were younger we were told that we were buying the pagan babies. I remember someone once making a comment about that phrase, but I can't remember what it refered to. St. Paul noted that baptism replaces circumcision and circumcision was for infants. Also , as you point out , the certificates ( I dont remember any certificates , though ) and the little cardboard box and all the hoop-la was good motivation and made the week more interesting for us kids . I remember collecting for Pagan Babies in my Catholic elementary school (I went to public high schoolwith the publics). THANK YOU for truly capturing a historical phenomenon! Along with the Pagan babies does anyone remember selling books of small stamps people could use on envelopes? With missionary nuns and pagan babies for starters. I taught in Catholic schools in the 1970s and pagan babies were a thing of the past ( as far as I know ; but never underestimate the nuns ). Seems like the boxes looked like animal crackers boxes . Someone spilled the beans , I think , or he bragged to the wrong person just what he had done . Written right on the top of the looseleaf paper, smack dab in the middle. I kept a large plastic Seagrams Seven bottle bank in my room at home that I put all my loose change into to save up for stuff I wanted and an occasional pagan baby. We boys , I think , had a sense of accomplishment somehow because even though he had been caught Cary still had the satisfaction of knowing that a pagan would go through life named Herman because of him . Pictures of Cherub-faced Indian, African, and Asian babies graced small cardboard collection boxes given to each child. We gave our allowances to save those babies. possibly before that, the Catholic schools sponsored an ongoing drive to raise money class voted on names. As for the naming part, while it seemed charming at the time, if it really were true, how outrageous for us to name an African baby Mary Margaret or other Western name. God Bless you. "Wow, that certainly brings back memories. And yesyou know who you are. Who could choose the most ridiculous name ? Yeah . That means that many of our grandbabies are pagan babies! The pagan baby he purchased was named Daniel James and his $5 gave him a Certificate of Adoption as a Souvenir of the Ransom and Baptism of an Adopted Pagan baby named Daniel James. This made my day. They projected slides of their missionary adventures onto the wall of the church hall . Im glad youu got a kick out of it . In return they were given a decorative certificate commemorating their The Church doesnt have a mission. Your email address will not be published. We too raised $$ for pagan babies. - Kathy F. I may have turned into a pagan . After all, it makes sense. Thanks for the comment. Im sure none of that money got further than the downtown Archdiocese offices . Sometimes the girls in one class would be pitted against the boys : Who could collect the money to name the pagan baby first ? We were wondering how much trouble Cary would get into . I suspect that Patricia never named them after you , David . The oldest nun asked : Any questions , children ? The students would sell candy bars for a dollar each and , depending on how many each child sold , he or she would win prizes . She prayed, and she prayed, and she prayed with her rosary novena for my vocation. - Ann C. No , only two thousand fifty , countered the salesman . We were never quite sure what a pagan was . on a regular basis. Bog bodies, secret passages, and amazing tombstones are all possibilities as well as the latest archaeological discovery. As a promotion, MISSIO is offering a chance to win a trip to Rome. No one was, in fact, adopted or bought. Im assuming youre a good Catholic father and have a tons of kids. By the way , I was born in SF . I will say, Im happy I went to catholic school. You are no doubt a stronger person for it . But Im a bit cynical . I think the whole pagan babies thing was to give us something concrete to hold onto, plus those certificates that we got and plus, of course, naming rights all in the name of raising money for the Churchs missionary work. In Common Good Constitutionalism, Adrian Vermeule argues with straw men and cites blog posts. Sure would love to hear from anyone that remembers. It really didnt have anything to do with Jesus, per se. the men39s shelter charlotte boro compatible aio; class b plus rv for sale by owner near alabama naughty little girls sex; korean sauna near me burlington county times obituaries today; porno angelina joli Seen the movie Mea Culpa? My nephew's school is doing "Pennies for Puerto Rico". I was not called to be a full-time missionary. Im still not so sure . The salesman had no answer . That reflects a certain dignified sincerity on your part , I think . - Betty L. Some of those Jesuits spoke directly to God . Youre an idiot that is exactly what happened at my grade-school as well. I told some Catholic friends about collecting money for Pagan Babies at Dover (Ohio) St. Josephs and they had never heard of such a thing but Im sure we did it. As an incentive for our fundraising, when we raised $5 we were allowed to give a Christian name to a pagan baby. Thanks for the comment . Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, apostolic nuncio to the United States who greeted guests on behalf of Pope Benedict XVI, called the Pontifical Mission Societies instruments for cooperation in the universal mission of the church across the world.. The poor pagan was already named Herman , right ? Take a look and see why Im so excited about this app and will be promoting it every chance I get. Well , I havent met any pagan (baby) Davids running around , but no pagan (baby) Patricias , either . Someone nees to buy Charlie a shiny bike. I still suspect the money collected ( probably in actuality just chicken-feed ? ) Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. Its a great way to perform works of mercy or give alms during Lent or find a family charity. A recent Pew Research Center study revealed that much of Christianity is significantly losing members. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. NOT catholic, hallelujah. Father Andrew Small, O.M.I., national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies and host of the evening, welcomes the archbishop. Any questions ? - Mary Ellen M. In my class at St. Amelias school in Tonawanda, NY, we collected nickels and dimes in a cigar box to buy a pagan baby. In the 50s It used to be border line sacrilegious to question the church maybe it still is , but after seeing the movie spot light Im thinking maybe Archbishop whats his name might have bought another set of golf clubs ( or something far more sinister ) ? Well I am hurt that you would think I would steal your money to Buy and Name more pagan babies. Without her mothers knowledge ! - Bob H. The problems were global, structural, and often ambiguous. The Biden administration has already announced it plans to fight any ruling against the FDAs approval of mifepristone. I believe it helped me get through this crazy life :-)) Hello Mike. I remember the little cardboard boxes and wanting to saving the poor pagan babies. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Even though I later went on to become a Catholic priest (and later resigned and married), my robust suspicion that Catholicism did not have all the answers began to take root way back in my young Catholic boyhood. 3:21; cf. Cary had guts, for sure , for such a bold attempt at fraud . And the fact that you great people, so distinguished, so esteemed, would be here this evening to rally around this sacred responsibility of missions, what a source of inspiration and joy., No comments on this item You know the drill . Thanks for your comment . Im pretty sure it was the heavy sell on Pagan Babies and the strong emphasis on the fact that God doesnt like Protestants that caused me to first question the rigid authority of the Catholic Church. ETA: and then theres this blog from someone who is completely unapologetic about their participation in the program: http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/2006/08/announcing-pagan-baby-reunion.html. 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