The study where she writes is a sunroom surrounded on three sides by windows. Lebowitz is strictly opposed to technology and to this day has no cell phone, computer, or typewriter. EW cover star Bowen Yang stopped by Late Night With Seth Meyers . During the time that I read poetry, because I was such a wonderful reader of it, people who actually had a legitimate interest in poetry would hear me and ask me to send it to them because they thought it was good. I didnt know that there was anything about me that had a name, that could be diagnosed. In conversation with Interview pal Francesco Clemente, Lebowitz here lays out her tongue-in-cheek platform for a mayoral run, declares the Donalds run done, and explains why New York is the greatest place in the world. He writes for the New Yorker. See, then, if you had no money, you had a horrible apartment. Since 1974, High Times Magazine has been the #1 resource for cannabis news, culture, brands and marijuana legalization laws. Then I went to a prep school that had a paper called the Wilson Wyndowe. In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. There were just tons of these and I never waited tables. Fran Lebowitz is an American author and a public speaker. Holding a grudge is the modern equivalent of having standards. President Biden repeatedly framed his campaign and his administration as defending "the rule of law" after what he and others portrayed as the lawless reign of President Trump . I was more of a drinker. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. She said, You know what its like being with you? They like machines because it makes them seem more masculine. Not just in school; I count on my fingers still. Talking is not writing. Fran Lebowitz. OK, come on. There are these prototypes all over the place, mixed in with my own crummy furniture. I remember walking in the hot sun to one of the American bases in Antiguapast the crazy house, as we called the lunatic asylum, and the dead house, where the bodies of people who died in the hospital were put until they were collected by the undertakerto be interviewed by an American soldiers wife. It was kind of adolescent-petulantsulking, rebellious. I also did some subcontract work for porn writers. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? People say, Oh, did you like New York better when it was filthy and dangerous? No. I didnt lead a riot or set fire to the gym or do anything James Deanish. I guess it didnt go. Donald Trump is not my fault. I like Thurber. . I met some very interesting taxi drivers. That tends to upset people. Since we are on the pages of Interview magazine, should we go back to your beginnings at Interview? I know Ive said this before, but the audience for the artswhether it was for writing or films . I had this aunt who had a book called The Night Visiters. I just knew an eight-year-old wrote it and it was published. There are musings about Times. I remember one of the best days of my life was an all-day A.I.P. 19 January 2021. I knew about four or five people who wrote porn books at the time that I was a poet. I was pulled out of school to take care of my youngest brother while my mother went to work, and when she realized I hadnt been looking after him properly, that I had been reading instead, she gathered all the books I had stolen from the library over the years and burned them. Maybe 20 people had read it, and he acted like it was in the Daily News. Lucy stops sending her salary home, and I did stop sending mine. You have an idea for an app? CLEMENTE: One of my favorite things that you ever published was something that came out at the height of the AIDS epidemic, when the amount of nonsensical, prejudiced, ridiculous things being said was really extraordinary, and you came up with a few paragraphs that really nailed the situation. Lebowitz: I wrote a book when I was about eight called The Secret Castle that owed a lot to Carolyn Keene, who wrote the Nancy Drew books. LEBOWITZ: When I move, I do. Im the worlds greatest daughter. CLEMENTE: Did you talk with the clients of your cab? Steve paid me excessive amounts of money to answer his telephone. Meeting James Joyce would be more on the order of sightseeing, like seeing the Washington Monument or the Jefferson Memorial. "And then we did it the Saturday . Im speaking to you from a priceless, one-of-a-kind chair. I did every single one like that. Comedian and podcast host Bill Maher pushed back against author Fran Lebowitz in his upcoming "Club Random" podcast when she suggested that schools have gone off the deep-end because of Republicans. I like Family Circle, Ladies Home Journal, anything with recipes that use marshmallows and American cheese in the same dish. Rare Vintage Andy Warhol's INTERVIEW Magazine, September 1981, featuringCover: FRAN LEBOWITZ w/ feature interview by JOHN WATERS (HYSTERICAL! I know this sounds insane, but I just hate it. At least to my face. LEBOWITZ: I only know how many there are because for the last several years Ive moved every five minutes, so theyre counted. Fran Lebowitz slams NYC mayor Eric Adams. Everybody else was. If you can say 'I'll have that and a cup of coffee,' it's not art." 6. It was charity really. It was unavoidable. Bankers. Meet Fran Lebowitz and join her on her rambles as she muses about deadly distractions, Times Square terror, subway stoppers and total building fails. So I wrote The Secret Castle and was very disappointed to discover that no one published it. That never used to happen. I never make the connection between someones writing and who they are. Wasnt London still a capital of empire in the mid-60s, the cultural center of the Commonwealth? I would have gotten a scholarship. When I got to the hospital they did not believe that I had smoked marijuana, I was so smashed. There was one 75-year-old woman who was a torch singer; she had varicose veins, and shed get up on this stool and sing Marlene Dietrich songs, also at ten in the morning. Fran Lebowitz. A sense of, Im all alone in the world, and I have integrity. LEBOWITZ: No. People ask me, Arent you interested in what theyre thinking? We went to the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Connecticut and interviewed the star of the play, and I wrote this incredibly bitchy Rex Reedish interview with her and got an outraged letter from her press agent. But what I cant be is monogamous. In Andy Warhol's Interview: Volume 1: Best of the First Decade 1969-1979, edited by Sara J . I didnt have any adventures. Your email address will not be published. ever react to your devotion to their product? In my grammar school we got extra credit for extra book reports. In "Public Speaking," the initial documentary, Ms. Lebowitz brilliantly notes that one of the great tragedies of the AIDS crisis was that the city lost not only a generation of artists and. These four guys figured out how to lift New York out of this dire financial condition with the campaign I Love NY. I hated this thing. But . I was a big fan of Sky King. I got a lot of tips. The writer and raconteur embodied the hip, downtown Manhattan of the 70s. After addressing her reaction to the Mueller . There could be butchers and bookstores. Like a city. When I moved out nine years later, there was no ceiling in the bathroom. China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. Lebowitz: I like Marshall Brickman. After that I switched back to Larks, and I smoked those for a really long time. What you couldnt have at the time was male homosexuality, because the only books with male homosexuality were for male homosexuals. This is another thing most people don't know about Toni: though she was incredibly hardworking, she was physically incredibly lazy. The essays were published inMetropolitan Life(1978) andSocial Studies(1981). Ive gotten lots of date proposals. Lebowitz: I guess after about six months I started getting caught constantly. One day they would show you how to plant tomatoes, the next day theyd show how to raise chickens, the day after that how to can peas. I read How to Be a Naked Bus Driver and My Brother Was an Only Child. He wrote a lot of books. And you know what we have enough of? Truckstop Women was one of my favorites. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. One is that deers are rats. I write so slowly that I could write in my own blood without hurting myself. There were times when my mother and I would go swimming and she would disappear for a second, and I would imagine the depths just rolling over her, that shed go deeper and deeper and Id never see her again . LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. by . She is a presence; everything begins to happen when she talks. They had one guy who was like an Elvis imitator, only he imitated Oscar Wilde. I was a chauffeur for Johnny and Edgar Winter. [5] She is known for her sardonic social commentary on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities and her association with many prominent figures of the . Frans column was called The Best of the Worst; her job was reviewing the best of the current bad films, and she worked as hard as a Variety critic, taking in two or three screenings a day. High Times: Did you ever worry about not graduating from high school? Well, I work on amachine. And its not my desire to make New York more suburban. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They all say, Oh I did it this afternoon, or, Oh, Im finished. No effect? I couldnt imagine knowing someone who was that funny. High Times: What was it like being a cab driver? My idea of pure hell. LEBOWITZ: But what about the caffeine? They had a style sheet that was kind of the opposite of the New York Times. - 48-page book (text in German) covering the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Andy Warhol, the Velvet Underground in film and a discography, with many b&w and colour photos. CLEMENTE: But dont you love being in someone elses apartment, possibly someone you dont know well or know at all? And if you asked them, Do you like that Jew? She would say, No, I hate him. Do you like that girl in the head scarf? No, I hate her. But heres the great thing about New York: They leave each other alone. Lebowitz's rise to fame began around 1972, when Andy Warhol hired her for Interview magazine to write reviews of bad movies before she expanded into cultural criticism in her column, "I Cover the Waterfront." She released two well-received collections of essays, Metropolitan Life (1978), followed by Social Studies (1981). The title song was sung by a truck. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. LEBOWITZ: Well, you know, so few Americans vote that we may not even notice it. I ended up smoking Lucky Strikes, just because I liked the way it looked, the gesture. 2011. When I first came here, meeting writers wasnt available to me; but now that I have met tons of those people, I wish I hadnt. CLEMENTE: Since we are New Yorkers, we should talk real estate. The effect of AIDS was like a war in a minute country. And people are constantly telling me, whether they are friends who feel sorry for me, because I cant find a place to live, or real estate agents, You cant afford an apartment the size you need with this many books. Im great at the beginning, because I can be very romantic. I started being a poet when I lived in Poughkeepsie, and I wrote a book of poetry called Poughkeepsie Blood. I just dont want to hear someone else walking around. movie. Theyre all right-wing nuts. Fran Lebowitzs trademark is the sneer; she disapproves of virtually everything except sleep, cigarette smoking, and good furniture. Fran describes Ralph Lauren's copying, and eventual embodiment, of Brooks Brothers WASP style. AIDS completely changed American culture. It was minute. We would think of them together, and then he would execute them. It was actually a show for farmers. She was part Carib Indian, and they used to call her the Red Woman. Anna Rahmanan. Then I start thinking that maybe somewhere in the house is a column that I never turned in. Someone once told me they were sending me 14,000 roses and 12,000 Chinese concubines, but they never showed up. What youre supposed to have is, say, all Henry Jamess novels and the letters, which is more elegant. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. I played cello in the school orchestra, but I was so horrible that I soon got over the notion of being a cellist. One day I went downstairs to eat Polka Dottys food, my mother told me that Polka Dotty had flown south for the winter. Saying no is a little different. Martin Scorsese and Fran Lebowitz are trying to remember how they met. But its important who the president is. Okay? My parents did. While working in the local Carvel ice-cream store, she attended an Episcopalian day school until she was thrown out for non-specific surliness. Certain that she would starve to death following this banishment, Lebowitz skipped college and moved to Manhattan, where she pursued such jobs as taxi driving, belt peddling, apartment cleaning (with a small specialty in Venetian blinds), and selling advertising space forChangesmagazine. FRAN LEBOWITZ. I believe that at birth everyone gets the capacity for a certain amount of drugs and alcohol, everyone the same, you can do it all between 15 and 19 like I did, or you can stretch it out over 70 years. Until then homesickness was something I only knew from books. I used to steal hers. I like Ebony too, but its no Sepia. Most families are a bunch of unattractive dopes. She rented a theater and sat on stage and called people up and didnt tell them. I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. I also used to write a zillion songs. Their antidote to this was giving me about 22 Thorazines. They had a very weird array of people who worked there. 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